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So lets just subject women to the monotony of the business world -- and leave our children to be raised by the failing public school system


The "womens movement" was encouraged, and even funded, by the Federal Reserve.


You say women are slaves taking care of their children, when in all actuality, they are being enslaved by the Federal Government..



It seems to me like you think a stay-at-home mother couldn't live a fulfilling life.
lol, I guess you're talking to me.

I'm not sure what you're talking about when you bring up the federal reserve and government. Can you point me to some articles so that I can educate myself?

I don't believe all stay-at-home mothers can't live a fulfilling life. I believe parents who sacrifice everything - their goals, their happiness - can't live a fulfilling life.


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lol, I guess you're talking to me.

I'm not sure what you're talking about when you bring up the federal reserve and government. Can you point me to some articles so that I can educate myself?

I don't believe all stay-at-home mothers can't live a fulfilling life. I believe parents who sacrifice everything - their goals, their happiness - can't live a fulfilling life.

The Federal Reserve and Federal Income Taxes are controlled by independent bankers (on a grand scale)... Not one dime of Income Taxes go into what you think they do, they are immediately absorbed by the massive inflation and debt.


These bankers funded private and public Womens Rights organizations, such as the Federal Women's Program (FWP) --

Essentially they were utilizing only 50% of the population for their mass "slavery".
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08-13-2009, 11:57 PM

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The Federal Reserve and Federal Income Taxes are controlled by independent bankers (on a grand scale)... Not one dime of Income Taxes go into what you think they do, they are immediately absorbed by the massive inflation and debt.


These bankers funded private and public Womens Rights organizations, such as the Federal Women's Program (FWP) --

Essentially they were utilizing only 50% of the population for their mass "slavery".
Huh... I'm going to look that up.


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Huh... I'm going to look that up.
Watch the documentary "America: Freedom to Fascism"

You can watch it online, too, I'm sure.


The documentary is a little dramatic, but it's all factual.
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The Federal Reserve and Federal Income Taxes are controlled by independent bankers (on a grand scale)... Not one dime of Income Taxes go into what you think they do, they are immediately absorbed by the massive inflation and debt.


These bankers funded private and public Womens Rights organizations, such as the Federal Women's Program (FWP) --

Essentially they were utilizing only 50% of the population for their mass "slavery".
Which in turn ruined the instution of marriage causing an upswing in single parent families resulting in the lack of dicipline to the children later resulting in the end of America as we know it.


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08-14-2009, 02:04 AM

Well, I truely think that a stay-at home mom COULD live a furfilling life. I mean, what if the woman likes to be with her children and raise them . What if she does like the cleaning and cooking.(I sure do love cleaning and cooking)

I think it all depends on the person. For example I know a woman(Known since i was four) and she completly hates cooking an cleaning and all that. But her boyfriend(might as well say husband even though they never bothered marrying) absolutly doesn't mind household chores. They have kids, and they both have jobs. But it's just the way they roll.

If you can't find it in yourself yo do household chores, my best bet would to either share the chores with your spouse, boyfriend, girlfriend. Whatever they are. Either that or find someone that likes household chores. Best I can think of.


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08-14-2009, 04:04 AM

This is what I think of women and domestication:

Being a woman TODAY, you have many more options with your life, compared to 50 years and beyond.

I still think there are MANY biases against women in the workforce (but this totally depends on the job), but women haven't always been turned down for jobs.

During wars, women would take up the role of men in leave of their absence. Women have also been teachers, secrataries, nurses, and large roles in the church community in past history-- and even today. And most of all, women have had the most important role of being a mother to nurture their children.

During the 1960s, woman have gotten a larger role in the working world. I think that's wonderful, because I'm female myself and I have so many ambitions and goals.

But my parents have always told me that being a mother is the most important role if I ever want to have a family.

I do have A LOT of goals once I graduate high school and go into the real world. And my parents are not going to stop me, because they obviously want me to be happy in my life.

But once I do settle down and decide to have a family, I want to be there for my kids.

Why would I want to let a nanny or baby sitter take care of my children while I'm off working all of the time?

I definitely want to keep a job and have kids, but this is something that would have to be discussed with my husband. When I grow up, I definitely want to make rules and boundaries for housework and children with my husband.

Depending on who works more, they would have less housework and chores, but they also would have to spend time with kids just as much as whoever is staying home. (though, that would be hard to do, depending on the situation)

And I definitely have heard of plenty of stay at home dads, but usually women take on the role because they were the ones built to carry children. But this doesn't mean women can't go out do what they want.

A women can have just as much happiness and satisfication having a job and or having children.

But having children is a CHOICE between two people. Once you're older, you may want to have kids, and situations ALWAYS change.

Depending on your situation and modern day culture, men and women have interchangable roles. What seems womanly a man can do without a problem. What seems manly, a woman can do without a problem.


But there are choices people must make, and obviously people mature and constantly change throughout life.
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Did I make sense, or what? @_@

I'm basically saying roles of men and women seriously depend on your situation and the choices you make in life.


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Depending on your situation and modern day culture, men and women have interchangable roles. What seems womanly a man can do without a problem. What seems manly, a woman can do without a problem.

Except that a man will never be a mother, and a woman will never be a father.
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Except that a man will never be a mother, and a woman will never be a father.
Well, that's a bit obvious.

You can't be a father if you are a mother. But for stereotyped roles of being a mother/father, certain things can be reversed (as I have mentioned) like stay at home dads.

I also think some people get the idea that because of their body being built to be a male or female they have to be a mother or a father even before conceiving a child. They have the CHOICE to not be a mother or a father if they so choose to be. People shouldn't get mad because people pressure them into being a parent. If they want to focus on their career more, by all means DO IT!

But there's the problem when people have/want children and want to maintain a job. This requires much thinking and prioritizing. Hopefully, the kids would come first.


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08-14-2009, 05:44 AM

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Well, that's a bit obvious.
You would think so, but I meant it in all seriousness. How many times have I heard single mothers say "I play the role of the mom and the dad"?

No. You don't. You can't be both to a child. That doesn't mean you can't raise a child alone, but that child will be missing something without a father, just as he would be missing something without a mother.

I get the feeling (not from you, Yuna) that there is a sense in the world that the role of the father is...less important than that of the mother. I think that needs more close examination. The truckloads of statistics I found, (I only posted a handful) seem to indicate that without a father around, children have more trouble.

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You can't be a father if you are a mother. But for stereotyped roles of being a mother/father, certain things can be reversed (as I have mentioned) like stay at home dads.
I am all for stay-at-home dads, but you are right. A stay-at-home dad is not a mother. Just as a stay-at-home mother is not a father.

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I also think some people get the idea that because of their body being built to be a male or female they have to be a mother or a father even before conceiving a child. They have the CHOICE to not be a mother or a father if they so choose to be. People shouldn't get mad because people pressure them into being a parent. If they want to focus on their career more, by all means DO IT!

But there's the problem when people have/want children and want to maintain a job. This requires much thinking and prioritizing. Hopefully, the kids would come first.
I agree with this 100%. About half of my adult friends either have children or have chosen to never have children. It is interesting to see how the two paths lead to very different lives.
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