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New question for the guys:

What is up with the weird thing about choosing a girlfriend that needs to feel the need to depend on you? What's wrong with independent women? Like is it a pre-requisite that you need to have an idea that the girl you date will be definitely be heartbroken after your relationship?

Of course I don't mean all guys, but a lot of guys I know do this and it BAFFLES me. I mean SERIOUSLY, Making girls cry? Who do you think you are, Georgie Porgie?
Relationship wise, there’s little worse than for a man to be with a woman who makes him feel unwanted. Why? I don’t know, but I believe the answer lies ingrained in centuries of prescribed gender roles. Now, this doesn’t mean you have to be some dependent, clingy, needy woman to make a man feel comfortable with you. You just have to do some little things here and there to make him feel like he’s wanted. Once in a while, ask him to come over and fix a door knob, change a light bulb or place some tiles and then, stroke his ego for it. Some women appreciate being told how attractive they are, and some men like being told that they are lifesavers or problem solvers.

As for your last bit, I can’t really answer since I’m not, nor have I ever met, a man who takes pride in making a woman cry. If you know men like that, they’re the exception and not the norm. Douches, some might call them. :P

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Yippee other people who dislike Twilight as much as I do^^

Okay so here's a question for the guys:
Why do you feel the need to "talk" to a girls chest?
(granted I'm 6' 3" so I have to deal with it all the time due to the fact most guys are eye level with my chest) but come on, most women don't stand there talking to your crotch.
We’re men. That means we’re sexual beings. We’re on overdrive most of the time and, as a result, our eyes will stray. It’s natural so get used to it woman because it won’t change any time soon. But take comfort in knowing that if we like you, no amount of visual straying will make us stray from your path. Besides, don't pretend women don't steal glances here and there. It's just human nature to stare at amazing things.
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Here's another:
Why do men have such an issue with women who are taller then them, out spoken and able to take care of themselves? Are all guys attracted to needy, clingy, tiny women, or is it just where I live?
No man cares whether you’re short , tall or the she hulk in all her glory. If you are who you are and you look good doing it, a man will find a way to make it work. More often than not, I believe it's the taller woman who only wants to be with taller men.
Now, as for your “outspoken, taking-care-of-herself woman,” I’ll tell you this much; a man doesn’t mind these qualities. In fact, some might find it extremely attractive. The problems surface when the outgoing, outspoken and taking-care-of-herself woman begins to "feel" like she’s intimidating the man due to her qualities or, even worse, begins to act on these feelings. I mentioned that there’s little worse than making a man feel unwanted/useless in a relationship. But, one of the things that’s worse, however, is making a man feel unwanted/useless AND THEN using your success or independence to undermine him for it. A woman wouldn't like this, so there's no reason why a man would want to deal with it.

As long as you mutually respect each other, then I think that’s perfect for moving one step closer to a healthy relationship....or, at the very least, understanding each other.

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You just have to do some little things here and there to make him feel like he’s wanted. Once in a while, ask him to come over and fix a door knob, change a light bulb or place some tiles and then, stroke his ego for it. Some women appreciate being told how attractive they are, and some men like being told that they are lifesavers or problem solvers.
Say whuuut? Calling a man to change a ~LIGHT BULB~ to make him feel wanted? Are you serious? The only circumstance that would lead me to call a man for such a little task would be if I'd broken both my legs. For me that would be condescending to my boy and demeaning to myself.

"Hey boyfriend, to placate your fragile male ego (because clearly any other demonstration of love for you is not enough) I'm going to pretend to be someone I'm not, and feign a truly pathetic level of incompetence so you can come dashing to my petty time-wasting demands like my shining knight of menial chores."

Can't you just ~tell~ the poor sucker you like having him around? You know, if that whole 'dating' thing isn't getting the hint across?
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Say whuuut? Calling a man to change a ~LIGHT BULB~ to make him feel wanted? Are you serious? The only circumstance that would lead me to call a man for such a little task would be if I'd broken both my legs. For me that would be condescending to my boy and demeaning to myself.

"Hey boyfriend, to placate your fragile male ego (because clearly any other demonstration of love for you is not enough) I'm going to pretend to be someone I'm not, and feign a truly pathetic level of incompetence so you can come dashing to my petty time-wasting demands like my shining knight of menial chores."

Can't you just ~tell~ the poor sucker you like having him around? You know, if that whole 'dating' thing isn't getting the hint across?
Men like to solve problems. They like to talk through things. Women like to talk about things. For women the talking about things is therapeutic. For men it is different. The talking is sharing information in order to enact a plan to resolve the issue. Modus Operendi is right, in that it doesn't matter if a woman is independent, self-motivated, outspoken, etc. as long as the man feels needed in her life. If he isn't serving any purpose, he is going to hit the road.
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Say whuuut? Calling a man to change a ~LIGHT BULB~ to make him feel wanted? Are you serious? The only circumstance that would lead me to call a man for such a little task would be if I'd broken both my legs. For me that would be condescending to my boy and demeaning to myself.

"Hey boyfriend, to placate your fragile male ego (because clearly any other demonstration of love for you is not enough) I'm going to pretend to be someone I'm not, and feign a truly pathetic level of incompetence so you can come dashing to my petty time-wasting demands like my shining knight of menial chores."

Can't you just ~tell~ the poor sucker you like having him around? You know, if that whole 'dating' thing isn't getting the hint across?
I find it a bit off that you'd take an entire post about a man's desire to feel needed in a relationship and focus on a light bulb example to undermine the main point. But, I'll bite. Yes, even if it is a light bulb, it will help get the message across. Every little bit counts as long as you take the time to make the man feel needed.

And, for the final part of your post, the answer is "no." No, it is not enough to just ~tell~ the poor sucker you like having him around. Some people like to know “why” they are around and that they’re around for a purpose… not just that they are around. Would a woman not enjoy being told why a man finds her attractive/cute/stunning/amazing/ that he wants to be with her….you know, if that whole ‘dating’ thing isn’t getting the hint across? :P
If you make a man feel useless/unneeded it will be rough sailing for that relationship.

Anyways, a question was asked and I gave an honest answer. Whether you like it or not, choose to follow it or not, find it insulting/agreeable or not, it's entirely up to you. No one will fault you for it.
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Men like to solve problems. They like to talk through things. Women like to talk about things. For women the talking about things is therapeutic. For men it is different. The talking is sharing information in order to enact a plan to resolve the issue. Modus Operendi is right, in that it doesn't matter if a woman is independent, self-motivated, outspoken, etc. as long as the man feels needed in her life. If he isn't serving any purpose, he is going to hit the road.
I understand that people in relationships need to feel needed, but do I really have to fake needing stupid chores done for me to achieve that?

I'm not talking about a long-winded heart to heart about how I want and need him in my life, but an honest comment now and then without having to stoop to the whole farce of 'Oh me oh my, my lightbulb is brokened. Oh whatsoever shall I do, being the poor delicate girl that I am. I need a MAN."
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I understand that people in relationships need to feel needed, but do I really have to fake needing stupid chores done for me to achieve that?

I'm not talking about a long-winded heart to heart about how I want and need him in my life, but an honest comment now and then without having to stoop to the whole farce of 'Oh me oh my, my lightbulb is brokened. Oh whatsoever shall I do, being the poor delicate girl that I am. I need a MAN."
I see the problem now. You're taking it all too literally. Just find what he can do and make use of it in your life. Is he an accountant? Let him do your taxes or handle your finances. Is he an educator? Find a way to make use of his respective skills. Is he in construction, let him work on loose plumbing....or the occasional light bulb
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03-10-2011, 08:19 PM

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I find it a bit off that you'd take an entire post about a man's desire to feel needed in a relationship and focus on a light bulb example to undermine the main point. But, I'll bite. Yes, even if it is a light bulb, it will help get the message across. Every little bit counts as long as you take the time to make the man feel needed.
You gave small DIY chores as your exact examples of what women should do to make their men feel 'wanted'. That's what I played off of.

And that was kind of my point; I'm not disputing that people in relationships need to feel needed, but it seems really dumb to me that it has to come from that particular kind of exchange at all. Apparently it's enough to just talk to women and say that (and why) they're attractive/cute/stunning/amazing/ that he wants to be with her, (ie, the 'I like having you around') but i'm just honestly baffled as to why, to do the same for a man, apparently it's a matter of feigning weakness and making silly demands of him. Is there really anything wrong with a straight-forward, "because I love you and you make me happy." as a reasonable purpose?
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I see the problem now. You're taking it all too literally. Just find what he can do and make use of it in your life. Is he an accountant? Let him do your taxes or handle your finances. Is he an educator? Find a way to make use of his respective skills. Is he in construction, let him work on loose plumbing....or the occasional light bulb
Ok. I get where you're going now (so don't mind my other post too much).
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Ok. I get where you're going now (so don't mind my other post too much).
No worries. Entirely my fault for being a bit vague. =)
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If you have a spot, does it put guys off? My friend said if you have one, it's unlikely to make a difference. I always stress when I just have one, which is ridiculous because I'm lucky with my skin generally, hah...
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