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06-04-2008, 06:24 PM

the last thing I will say on this subject, is I never made fun of rape, just by using the word in a different way.


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the last thing I will say on this subject, is I never made fun of rape, just by using the word in a different way.
That is making fun of rape.
You seem to not grasp it all.
Rape isn't like cuss words.
I mean really, do you walk up to someone whos child died and start talking about dead children?
It doesn't matter which way you mean it. Rape itself is a serious issue and unlike alot of words and actions it hurts people.
So when you " use it in a different way" those people who were hurt or who've had someone hurt aren't going to see it as " a different way" all you're doing is bringing back bad memories when you could easily replace it with the word " sex"
You're being inconsiderate.



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06-04-2008, 08:48 PM

It's pointless to explain my thoughts, so I won't.


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06-04-2008, 09:54 PM

ok use this term in any way is not a good idea and I agree on the principle .. BUT in this case I think that communication, understanding and the atmosphere on JF will further deteriorate this. (like The Fake Story or The 50%Nude Pics during the First Election..).. this is not to banish the word "rape" to me ... Wht I dislike is to ban an WORD ..We attack liberty. we're not non-sensitive people... its like on TV. you call FoxNew everytime they said somethin tht you dont like?


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06-04-2008, 10:11 PM

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ok use this term in any way is not a good idea and I agree on the principle .. BUT in this case I think that communication, understanding and the atmosphere on JF will further deteriorate this. (like The Fake Story or The 50%Nude Pics during the First Election..).. this is not to banish the word "rape" to me ... Wht I dislike is to ban an WORD ..We attack liberty. we're not non-sensitive people... its like on TV. you call FoxNew everytime they said somethin tht you dont like?
No one said we're asking to ban a word. What's being asked is to not use the word so carelessly. There's a difference between using the word to depect destruction ex: "He raped him In Halo 3". Opposed to reckless and insensitve use "*rapes jrockerfaggot xxxx*".

Context is what's being asked, not banishment.



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06-04-2008, 11:01 PM

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ok use this term in any way is not a good idea and I agree on the principle .. BUT in this case I think that communication, understanding and the atmosphere on JF will further deteriorate this. (like The Fake Story or The 50%Nude Pics during the First Election..).. this is not to banish the word "rape" to me ... Wht I dislike is to ban an WORD ..We attack liberty. we're not non-sensitive people... its like on TV. you call FoxNew everytime they said somethin tht you dont like?
As Tyrien said.
I'm not looking to the ban the word.
But I do think something should be done about people using it as a joke so casually.

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What the hell does Fox News have to do with anything? <<
That was so random dude.

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Also when someone jokes about rape around me in person, I ask them nicely to not do that. And they apologize and never do again but for some reason when I get on the net and ask it's this big issue.



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06-05-2008, 05:11 PM

So explain? What are you guys wanna do "against" tht? I understand what you want to do but i don't know how? We're not gonna check everyone post to know if it was a joke or if it was true ..

If you dont wanna ban this word..


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06-05-2008, 05:28 PM

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So explain? What are you guys wanna do "against" tht? I understand what you want to do but i don't know how? We're not gonna check everyone post to know if it was a joke or if it was true ..

If you dont wanna ban this word..
As I ask, she's asking people stop being ignorant about the word and saying stuff like "*rapes koaku!!* <3xoxoxoxox" etc, etc. Because it's not funny, cute, "kawaii", or cool.

**Note: I picked the first name I saw. I hope you get the point though.



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06-05-2008, 05:37 PM

I get the point lool
But like i said before We are on internet..and on a forum..if we start to ...{i want to say advice?} people not using a word because its inappropriate.., they're gonna say " Its Only for Fun...stop boring me..they always want to forbid everything" I understand your point (REALLY)...but remember the pics story..things can go fast from nothing and take proportion totaly crazy..(I mean disproportionate..o_O )


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06-05-2008, 06:10 PM

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I get the point lool
But like i said before We are on internet..and on a forum..if we start to ...{i want to say advice?} people not using a word because its inappropriate.., they're gonna say " Its Only for Fun...stop boring me..they always want to forbid everything" I understand your point (REALLY)...but remember the pics story..things can go fast from nothing and take proportion totaly crazy..(I mean disproportionate..o_O )
With that logic we should be free to debate over religion. But that was placed for a reason.

However with the rape issue it's essentially the same. One of the rules is even to respect other members. Well making a complete mockery of something as sensitve as rape is not respecting other members. Even if you don't think that anyone is being offended someone might be. That someone may not want to say anything either - and they shouldn't have to.

Wouldn't it be a big deal if people were constantly making jokes about cancer, AIDS, abortions, or down syndrom (I could go on but that should be enough)? Yes, it would be a huge deal and possibly get someone banned.

Again, no one has ever asked to ban the word. All that's being asked is to stop and think about how you use the word.



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